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	<title>Comments on: Hong Kong eliminates duties on alcohol</title>
	<link>http://www.china-briefing.com/news/2008/02/27/hong-kong-eliminates-duties-on-alcohol.html</link>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chris Devonshire-Ellis</title>
		<link>http://www.china-briefing.com/news/2008/02/27/hong-kong-eliminates-duties-on-alcohol.html#comment-7933</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Devonshire-Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 01:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The "smuggling cars in giant condoms" underwater, towed behind boats was the way in which Jimmy Lai (now on the run in Vancouver) conducted most of his smuggling in Xiamen. In Shenzhen, years ago, it was so rife that the taxis on the streets openly sometimes were stolen Hong Kong Toyotas (noticable because of the Right Hand drive) and stolen 400cc and above motorbikes from Japan. (you couldn't get bikes in China higher than that at the time). They even used to advertise them in bars for sale!  A few Harleys were doing the rounds too. Ahhh yes...the good old, bad old days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;smuggling cars in giant condoms&#8221; underwater, towed behind boats was the way in which Jimmy Lai (now on the run in Vancouver) conducted most of his smuggling in Xiamen. In Shenzhen, years ago, it was so rife that the taxis on the streets openly sometimes were stolen Hong Kong Toyotas (noticable because of the Right Hand drive) and stolen 400cc and above motorbikes from Japan. (you couldn&#8217;t get bikes in China higher than that at the time). They even used to advertise them in bars for sale!  A few Harleys were doing the rounds too. Ahhh yes&#8230;the good old, bad old days.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.china-briefing.com/news/2008/02/27/hong-kong-eliminates-duties-on-alcohol.html#comment-7920</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Start bringing in the cheap booze from HK then. 48,2% is no joke indeed.

For Tom: The HKDNP is for HK. That way it is easy for the customs in HK to seize products that were supposed to have been exported from HK but by the hand of Bacchus found their way to the bars of Mong Kok. In China it will have the HKDNP on it of coming from HK and once smuggled it is hard to distinguish what wine had their duty paid or not.  

I remember a boat was seized once on its way to the South of China towing a giant rubber condom filled with bottles of booze. That worked so well that they later even towed whole cars that way. This was during the days cars still had 100% import duty on them. Stolen in HK, new dashboard and steering wheel left and presto! tons of money to be made. Chris will probably know a couple of more of these smuggling cases from the good old days. The smugglers were pretty clever. Smuggling of diesel was also a big hit, that business is still going strong but Diesel versus wine....I go for a bottle of claret.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Start bringing in the cheap booze from HK then. 48,2% is no joke indeed.</p>
<p>For Tom: The HKDNP is for HK. That way it is easy for the customs in HK to seize products that were supposed to have been exported from HK but by the hand of Bacchus found their way to the bars of Mong Kok. In China it will have the HKDNP on it of coming from HK and once smuggled it is hard to distinguish what wine had their duty paid or not.  </p>
<p>I remember a boat was seized once on its way to the South of China towing a giant rubber condom filled with bottles of booze. That worked so well that they later even towed whole cars that way. This was during the days cars still had 100% import duty on them. Stolen in HK, new dashboard and steering wheel left and presto! tons of money to be made. Chris will probably know a couple of more of these smuggling cases from the good old days. The smugglers were pretty clever. Smuggling of diesel was also a big hit, that business is still going strong but Diesel versus wine&#8230;.I go for a bottle of claret.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.china-briefing.com/news/2008/02/27/hong-kong-eliminates-duties-on-alcohol.html#comment-7897</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 13:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.china-briefing.com/news/2008/02/27/hong-kong-eliminates-duties-on-alcohol.html#comment-7897</guid>
		<description>I don't think having an HKDNP sticker on the bottle will deter people in Shenzhen from drinking it if it's 40% cheaper as a result do you ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think having an HKDNP sticker on the bottle will deter people in Shenzhen from drinking it if it&#8217;s 40% cheaper as a result do you ?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Devonshire-Ellis</title>
		<link>http://www.china-briefing.com/news/2008/02/27/hong-kong-eliminates-duties-on-alcohol.html#comment-7888</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Devonshire-Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.china-briefing.com/news/2008/02/27/hong-kong-eliminates-duties-on-alcohol.html#comment-7888</guid>
		<description>The import tariff on the mainland for wine is 48.2%, made up of Customs duty, VAT and Consumption tax. Thats a rather large incentive to smuggle it in from HK. Ever crossed the border in a car at Lok Ma Chau into Shenzhen recently ? They never check your car - it could have six cases of wine in it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The import tariff on the mainland for wine is 48.2%, made up of Customs duty, VAT and Consumption tax. Thats a rather large incentive to smuggle it in from HK. Ever crossed the border in a car at Lok Ma Chau into Shenzhen recently ? They never check your car - it could have six cases of wine in it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.china-briefing.com/news/2008/02/27/hong-kong-eliminates-duties-on-alcohol.html#comment-7848</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.china-briefing.com/news/2008/02/27/hong-kong-eliminates-duties-on-alcohol.html#comment-7848</guid>
		<description>I thought that mainland China had a lower local duty on wines than HK. Wouldn't the smugging have been the other way around for consumption of wines? HK has 0% import duty on wines but levies a high local duty on the sale of Tobacco and alcoholic beverages. Therefore in the past smuggling from HK into mainland China was quite common. That's why your HK imported beers and other beverages have HKDNP on it. Shows it is imported from HK or maybe smuggled. They did this so these beers could not be sold illegally into the local HK market.

Am I wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought that mainland China had a lower local duty on wines than HK. Wouldn&#8217;t the smugging have been the other way around for consumption of wines? HK has 0% import duty on wines but levies a high local duty on the sale of Tobacco and alcoholic beverages. Therefore in the past smuggling from HK into mainland China was quite common. That&#8217;s why your HK imported beers and other beverages have HKDNP on it. Shows it is imported from HK or maybe smuggled. They did this so these beers could not be sold illegally into the local HK market.</p>
<p>Am I wrong?</p>
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